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Click here for more details. Peterson unending conscious torment. Each man presents his own view and then responds to the other. Video — How the great majority of Christians came to teach unending conscious torment is as fascinating as any mystery or spy novel. In this video of a lecture attended by patrons of the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, Edward identifies scores of generally-overlooked Scriptures, then leads a tour through some paths of church history less well travelled, and haunted by pagan philosophy, medieval law and Reformation politics.
Click here. We are specifically forbidden to judge the final destiny of others. That makes very good sense because we do not know their hearts or their circumstances, and we lack the ability either to save or destroy. I shudder when Christian preachers give assurances of salvation to everyone who might be listening. I grieve when Christian preachers make dogmatic assertions about people they say will be lost.
The gospel promises the believer in Jesus and no one else immortality and eternal life. God is faithful, and he will never do less than he has promised. But he is also generous, and he is perfectly free to do as much more as he sees fit Matt. We see the heart of Jesus in his prayer from the cross, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing" Lk.
God is on the side of saving, not of condemning John For that, as one ignorant person who desperately needs God's forgiveness, I am eternally grateful.
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From Simon: The story of the rich man and Lazarus is problematic on many levels--it posits that we enter bliss or punishment immediately, rather than after resurrection and judgment. It is the one Bible passage I find impossible to reconcile with conditionalism, but neither is it compatible with either of the other two views on offer.
How do you read it? It is Jesus' solemn response to some Pharisees who love money more than God, who feel secure in the high esteem they enjoy with the public, and who ignore--even mock--the teaching of the Son of God himself and squander the opportunities God gives them to repent.
All this we learn from the context before we ever reach this parable Luke This is a familiar parable told by the rabbis and found in several versions.
Jesus apparently borrowed it, then changed the characters to emphasize his points of interest. Meanwhile, the rich man's brothers are still living on earth, where Moses and the prophets are still the final authority.
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Hell is nowhere in sight. At most, this story might say something about an intermediate state for unfaithful Jews at some time before Jesus died and rose from the dead. However, neither the context nor the punch-line is about any intermediate state of the dead, so we need not think that this parable teaches even that. Some traditionalist authors conclude that this parable has no place in a discussion of hell.
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From Christina: Do you believe in the possibility of post-mortem salvation? Might someone choose in favor of God after the resurrection of the dead and consequently spend eternity in heaven rather than be destroyed? I know nothing in the Bible that holds out the prospect of conversion after death, after the resurrection, or as universalism has it after entering hell itself.
Instead we read that it is appointed for us to die and face judgment, and that today is the day of salvation. The parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus also illustrates the necessity of responding to God now before it is too late. The strange picture in First Peter 3 about Jesus preaching to spirits in prison does not have anything to do with post-mortem evangelism. Close study shows it to match other Scriptures that picture the ascending Jesus declaring his victory over Satan to fallen angels who once influenced the world to sin, but who now are being held in spirit-prison as they wait for their day of judgment.
Ironically, traditionalists plant the seeds of universalism when they say that people in hell continue to sin, which requires God to increase their punishment. If people in hell can affect their future for the worse, they should be able also to change it for the better. On this question, annihilationism offers a bright light and clear lines found at neither extreme. That would be "Hell and Mr. What thoughts and feelings emerged as I experienced my personal story through a feature movie? Four words capture my answer.
Exciting --to watch producers, screenwriter, director and others take the little stories scattered throughout my life and knit them into a beautiful, compelling, award-winning work of art. From Jennifer: I grew up in a conserva tive, evangelical environment, but have spent the last few years with a growing sense of discomfort with the cookie cutter set of doctrines that I was raised with.
I have struggled with how to continue to attend church and fellowship with fellow Christians, torn between keeping silent on my differing beliefs and suffering the disconnect from others, or speaking up and risking their correction, concern, and judgment.
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I am tempted to simply walk away entirely. Have you faced more ostracizing, acceptance, interest, judgment, indifference from your fellow Christians? How have you handled this and continued to be in fellowship with other Christians without capitulating or walking away? Believe me, Jennifer, I have encountered all the reactions you name.
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The author of one recent article called me a false teacher, a heretic, an unbeliever, an apostate, and even a crank! Now that one stung! Even when wrong, I am really a very nice guy! We cannot control how others treat us, but we can decide how we will regard and treat them. Someone else's misbehavior is no cause for us to imitate them instead of imitating Christ.
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I have found that most people react positively and express interest in further study, including teachers and preachers who work with integrity in the face of constant critics and detractors. Some people do prefer conformity over conviction, and they react to diligent study with studied disapproval. It is a bit bewildering to hear these same people proclaim allegiance to Scripture alone as their final authority. If your present congregation does not permit honest, open study of the Bible and does not find its unity in Jesus Christ, his saving work for us, and his Spirit in us, I encourage you to look elsewhere.
God bless you! Thanks again for your questions! Ask a conditionalist annihilationist Thanks to Robyn for this question that reminds us of what matters most. Immortality is conditional. The wicked will perish and become extinct. His mother was the child of missionaries to southern Africa, and his father was a Christian publisher and a minister in Churches of Christ.
Hell A Final Word
After completing his master's in Biblical languages from Abilene, Fudge ministered for non-institutional Churches of Christ in St. Louis and Athens, Alabama. His death on November 25, was announced via his GracEmail newsletter, and later reported in The Christian Chronicle. Although Fudge published several books, only The Fire That Consumes has been through multiple editions.
Bruce of Manchester, U. The book examined the doctrine of the final punishment of the unredeemed from throughout the whole Bible, non-biblical literature of Second Temple Judaism Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls , as well as the historical development of the doctrine of final punishment through the Apostolic Fathers, Ante-Nicene, Nicene, and Post-Nicene Fathers, medieval and later theologians, Reformers and later theologians. Fudge argues that the doctrine of hell as eternal, conscious torment was a necessary corollary of the doctrine of the immortality of the soul, brought into the Christian church by apologists such as Athenagoras and especially Tertullian.
When the first printing sold out in five months, Verdict gave all rights to the author, who for 29 years self-published the book through multiple printings under the name Providential Press. Wenham of Oxford. Paternoster was later bought by Authentic Media, who let the second edition go out of print. Andrews University, Scotland. Throughout the third edition, Fudge also interacts with seventeen authors of eleven traditionalist books, bringing the dialogue forward by three decades. Peterson defending a traditional interpretation of Hell. Fudge is the subject of a biopic, entitled Hell and Mr.
Fudge cooperated in the film's development. Fudge ran gracEmail, an email ministry in which he sent out several short emails focusing on biblical and Christian themes every week. He also wrote books on other topics, including a commentary on the Epistle to the Hebrews and a book on the topic of receiving guidance from God.